Single Pot Still - New Packaging

[Luke Gough]

News on the new Redbreast and Green Spot packaging here: http://www.scotchmaltwhisky.co.uk/midletonsinglepotstillwhiskey.htm

However, is there any news on improving the contents of said bottlings?

Any news would be greatly appreciated Gents/Ladies!

[DavidH]

We had some discussion over on this thread, Luke.

[IrishWhiskeyChaser]

However, is there any news on improving the contents of said bottlings?

Hey Luke ... what needs to be improved

[DavidH]

Hey Luke ... what needs to be improved

I'd suggest putting a 10yo age statement on the Green Spot, which would obviously require maturing the stuff in the bottle a little longer. I don't know if that would improve it but it would make for a stronger link with the brand's origins.

[varizoltan]

Hey Luke ... what needs to be improved

in the bottle a little longer

where?

you mean in the cask right ?

[Stephen]

Hey Luke ... what needs to be improved

I'd suggest putting a 10yo age statement on the Green Spot, which would obviously require maturing the stuff in the bottle a little longer. I don't know if that would improve it but it would make for a stronger link with the brand's origins.

There is a Green Spot 10 year old (and 12 year old), pricey little buggers but very tasty. If I remember correctly the 10year old is €250 a bottle and the 12 is €850. Granted though these were limited editions released to celebrate 200 years of trading at Mitchell and Sons.

[DavidH]

where?

you mean in the cask right ?

Allow me to rephrase my sentence: the stuff in the bottle will need to be matured for longer, if it's to have a 10yo age statement. Matured before it gets to the bottle, naturally.

[IrishWhiskeyChaser]

There is a Green Spot 10 year old (and 12 year old), pricey little buggers but very tasty. If I remember correctly the 10year old is €250 a bottle and the 12 is €850. Granted though these were limited editions released to celebrate 200 years of trading at Mitchell and Sons.

More like Celtic Tiger limited edition with celtic tiger price tags

the stuff in the bottle will need to be matured for longer, if it's to have a 10yo age statement. Matured before it gets to the bottle, naturally.

Would it not have to be called Yellow spot or Blue spot or something else along those lines then

[DavidH]

There is a Green Spot 10 year old (and 12 year old), pricey little buggers but very tasty.

They were Green Spots in name only and not an attempt to reproduce the original. They were not even sherry-aged, so far as I know (I haven't tasted them).

Given that the original Green Spot was entirely sherry-aged (with different types of sherry involved), 10 years old and affordable by the good citizens of Dublin, a modern day SPS, 10yo, lots of sherry influence and keenly priced would be a nice nod towards the independent whiskey bonding heritage.

It's just an idle thought. I'm not campaigning for it

[DavidH]

Would it not have to be called Yellow spot or Blue spot or something else along those lines then

No, Green Spot was 10 years old back in the day. It's the current Green Spot that should really be called Blue Spot

[IainB]

Personally I'd leave the contents of the bottle exactly as they are - an expanded range would be fine but I think it's a great whiskey as it is and there's nothing wrong with having a NAS single potstill whiskey available. There are already older SPS whiskeys available anyway. The contents of the bottle do vary from time to time but that's the nature of whiskey.

I thinks it's 25% sherry aged at the moment. As for what's traditional it's been in it's current from for quite some time now so I think there's an argument that the current NAS, 25% sherry green spot is the tradition!

[Luke Gough]

Thank you everyone for your contributions to this thread: Great Stuff - so far!

[IrishWhiskeyChaser]

Would it not have to be called Yellow spot or Blue spot or something else along those lines then

No, Green Spot was 10 years old back in the day. It's the current Green Spot that should really be called Blue Spot

Thanks for that .. do you have the list of spot colours and age statements ... I used to have a few of them before but I cannot find where I got that now

[TheWhiskeyBro]

Up to the 1920s they were Greenspot 5yo, Bluespot 7yo, Yellowspot 12yo, Redspot 15yo.... used to on their website afaik

http://www.mitchellandson.com/green-spo ... p-359.html

Then Greenspot became a 10yo between the late 1920s and 1960s but must check to be accurate,

It subsequently became the Pot Still nas blend we know today, presumably from around 1971 (when Jameson no longer supplied Gilbeys?)

[DavidH]

The Mitchell's website didn't put a date on the brand, just saying that it was called "Pat Whiskey" originally and that morphed into "Green Spot" from the label appearance.

Certainly by the late '20s, it was called Green Spot and it was 10 years old (from Irish Times ads).

[IrishWhiskeyChaser]

Good to know the original designations but as you say David and Iain it has been Greenspot as a matter of course for nearly a century now so we can hope that Greenspot can grow as a brand rather than be though of as an expression of a brand ... think I'm going to have one now while I'm talking about it ...

... is this the power of exposure ...

[DavidH]

we can hope that Greenspot can grow as a brand rather than be though of as an expression of a brand

That would be a pity. Almost the entire history of Irish whiskey has been the preservation of brands at the expense of continuity and heritage. So PPS became blend, distilleries shut down, aged became NAS, brands transferred between companies... Green Spot was kept alive for one reason only - that it would be a pity to let the old bonding tradition die out completely. It's great that it made it all the way to today, where it's future seems safe, but if it's just as a brand that can be applied to anything then what was the point?

IDL doesn't need Green Spot to be a mass market item. Let's have it as a heritage item so. A little bit of the old days, as far as possible.

[IrishWhiskeyChaser]

Yes I agree David but I suppose what I was getting at is that if IDL use Greenspot as a brand name we can have other expressions of this on the go too.

At the end of the day everything should have it's own identity hence the Brand ... is not Irish WHiskey Notes not your Brand. It really does not have to be a bad word

Definitely would hope it will always be a fairly small batch operation but imagine a line up of Greenspot, Greenspot 10yo, 15yo and 18yo ... now that sounds yummy

This would contrast nicely against redbreast with greenspot being far less sherried and possibly slightly lighter in style.

While we are at it a Redbreast nas & 18yo also ...

I know I'm not asking for much ... I'll just be thankful that they have breathed new life into them wit the Re-Packaging .

Anybody see the new Greenspot for sale yet or is still to be released?

[Luke Gough]

Anybody see the new Greenspot for sale yet or is still to be released?

Perhaps we'll find out at the next Society meeting ("Past and Present") - see you there!

[DavidH]

Definitely would hope it will always be a fairly small batch operation but imagine a line up of Greenspot, Greenspot 10yo, 15yo and 18yo ... now that sounds yummy

I suppose it does They should go back to the colours though. Red, Blue, Yellow... it would be a hit.

[JohnM]

Definitely would hope it will always be a fairly small batch operation but imagine a line up of Greenspot, Greenspot 10yo, 15yo and 18yo ... now that sounds yummy

I suppose it does They should go back to the colours though. Red, Blue, Yellow... it would be a hit.

Yeah, that would be a good idea. I saw the new Redbreast packaging yesterday, but not the Green Spot.

[Luke Gough]

Definitely would hope it will always be a fairly small batch operation but imagine a line up of Greenspot, Greenspot 10yo, 15yo and 18yo ... now that sounds yummy

I suppose it does They should go back to the colours though. Red, Blue, Yellow... it would be a hit.

Seconded!!!

[JohnM]

Does this mean my endorsement has been cancelled?

[Luke Gough]

Does this mean my endorsement has been cancelled?

No, it doesn't, it means I didn't read it! Sorry!

[IainB]

Does this mean my endorsement has been cancelled?

I thought you didn't use those little smiley things?

I must pop over to Mitchells and see if I can get any info out of them.

On the old style bottle I just saw one of their brochure's with a 200ml "Naggin" (spelling?) bottle in the old style which I'd never seen before.