finally purchased grain

[DavidH]

Ah yes, I expect you are right about diluting. I overlooked that.

It can't hurt to adjust the water before distillation so maybe it's safest to do that anyway. Next time I'm talking to a distiller, I'll see if I can get the water profile for you.

[scotty]

That would be a great thing Dave. Thanks soo much for all the feedback too


Same thanks to others who posted. Now i have to find out more about poteen for now. I remember reading about it somewhere. Perhaps it was in 1000 years of Irish whiskey.
We are working on a label for the poteen.

I guess we need to know if the word hillbilly is used In ireland and what the steryotype image is. We have our moonshoner types here.

[IrishWhiskeyChaser]

Poteen recipes vary wildly ... you can make it like the way you are making your whiskey and use grain (anyway grain will do but always a bit of malted is used to get the mash fermenting) or you could use potatoes skins which was another traditional way of making Irish Poteen.

I also spotted this recipe

7 lb of bakers yeast
3 stone of brown sugar
4 lb of treacle
1 lb of hops

1. Steep ingredients in 3 gallons of lukewarm water at the bottom of a 40 gallon barrel after steeping fill barrel to three quarter full with cold spring water. Leave in a cool place to settle. After several weeks transfer to your still


The other basic difference between poteen and whiksey is that it is not matured ... some people think is was matured but I think not. True poteen has been kept in oak casks allright but it was more of a means of storing rather than maturing. Poteen is nearly always a clear newly made spirit. Lethal stuff if it is "still" strength and you skull it back.

Trivia

Poteen or poitín or potcheen literally means little pot. Basically the term grew from the apparatus that was used which was a mini potstill.

Size and shape and crudeness varied hugely also.

Handy Article to read here

and also here




Typical Poitín making equipment

[IainB]

If you look carefully you'll see the fella on the right holding the still is actually IrishWhiskeyChaser. Shortly before his arrest for illegal distilling.

The fella in the middle with the tie is Zoltan, waiting to "mind" the still for him.

The third from the left, with the Cap, is David H, who tipped the Guards off in the first place.

The WhiskeyBro is nowhere to be seen. He suspected what was coming and legged it just in time.

The Guard on the right with the cigarette in his mouth, that's me. I was there to "test" the confiscated produce.

[DavidH]

The Guard on the right with the cigarette in his mouth, that's me. I was there to "test" the confiscated produce.

Happily for all concerned, when IainB leaned in to "test" the product, his cigarette ignited the vapour, destroying the evidence along with his eyebrows.

[IainB]

And that's why I no longer smoke.

[IrishWhiskeyChaser]

Dam ye anyway I had a good little earner going there for a while ... have ye no compassion I have a kid to put through college.

[scotty]

OK YOU NUTS that all had me rolling but it doesnt solve my problem. What is the word for hillbillys or mountain folk in ireland. i'M HOPING ITS DIFERENT OR ANY SLANG. iT WILL MAKE MY NEW LABEL SPECIAL oops caps

[DavidH]

I'll try to be very neutral here... there are two sorts of people in Ireland: those from Dublin (yay!) and those not from Dublin. Someone who is not from Dublin is a "culchie".

Of course we are all the best of friends

[scotty]

You guys are talking circles around me---

[scotty]

You guys are talking circles around me---

I wonder what the country folks call people from Dublin

[IainB]

You guys are talking circles around me---

I wonder what the country folks call people from Dublin

Traditionally Jackeens. From "Jack" for Union Jack and "een" meaning little - "Little Brits" in effect.

Dubliners often refer as people from the country as "culchies", "muckers", "boggers", "bog trotters", and occasionally hillbillies but that is an importation of the american phrase. It varies as to whether these terms mean people from outside dublin or more particularly people from more remote areas outside towns.

People from Cork city consider themselves neither culchies or jackeens, rather an entirely seperate and vastly superior category.

[DavidH]

Dubliners often refer to people from the country as "culchies", "muckers", "boggers", "bog trotters", and occasionally hillbillies...

... rednecks, muck savages ... but one doesn't like to be impolite

[DavidH]

It varies as to whether these terms mean people from outside dublin or more particularly people from more remote areas outside towns.

A handy rule of thumb: if you know the numbers of roads (M6, N17, etc), you are a culchie.

[IrishWhiskeyChaser]

It varies as to whether these terms mean people from outside dublin or more particularly people from more remote areas outside towns.

A handy rule of thumb: if you know the numbers of roads (M6, N17, etc), you are a culchie.

Never knew you for a culchie David




Basically there is no real Irish term for an Irish Mountain man that I can think of off the top of my head. But you do often hear people say he's from the mountains and it is an explain all expression. You very rarely hear Culchie mentioned outside of Dublin these days even though there is now a festival dedicated to it.

"Bogger" is possibly a more widely used term by "townies" in general relation to people from the "sticks".

You could possibly call it "bog water" even though that has another connotation also but we won't go there.

[IainB]

How about "Liam an Cnoc" meaning William of the hill i.e. Hillbilly.

Or IrishWhiskeyChaser. Another common Irish term for Hillbilly!

[IainB]

Or how about "Fear na Mona" meaning bogman.

Non Irish speakers note the Fear is pronounced closer to FAR as opposed to the word for terror etc.

As a Wicklow resident I have occasionally been called a "woolyback".

[scotty]

Or how about "Fear na Mona" meaning bogman.


FEAR NA MONA
irish moonshine

aged for up to 3 minutes
near imported burbon barrels

[DavidH]

FEAR NA MONA
irish moonshine

aged for up to 3 minutes
near imported bourbon barrels

Brilliant! I love the name and the description

Can I make a slight correction: there is an accent (fada) on the 'o': FEAR NA MÓNA

[IainB]

I knew that but I can never remember how to do the fada - you usually do them for me!

How posh am I?? I have someone to do fadas for me - is this what being a king is like??

[scotty]

we will then use this name and description-- ill have to read up on how to use the accent mark


perhaps in brackets with smaller letters just below FEAR NA MONA
(far na mona) with accent mark when we find out how
IRISH MOONSHINE

AGED UP TO 3 MINUTES
near used burbon barrels

[scotty]

this is getting to be good fun also

[DavidH]

On Windows, hold the 'Alt Gr' key down while you type a vowel: áéíóúÁÉÍÓÚ

Or just copy the one you need from the line above!

[IainB]

On Windows, hold the 'Alt Gr' key down while you type a vowel: áéíóúÁÉÍÓÚ

Or just copy the one you need from the line above!

I think you may have mentioned that before alright. I can be a bit forgetful.

[scotty]

Dave please explain further. I know what the alt key is but the Gr??? is a mystery.