What's your latest whiskey purchase?

[IrishWhiskeyChaser]

No never any issue with Italian bottles. Only issues that I've heard about is forging or re-filling empty but expensive scotch bottles.

[matt]

No never any issue with Italian bottles. Only issues that I've heard about is forging or re-filling empty but expensive scotch bottles.

Ok, thank you. Heard about some group that mixed up the Irish whiskey market in Italy in the 80`s......

[Good Whiskey Hunting]

No never any issue with Italian bottles. Only issues that I've heard about is forging or re-filling empty but expensive scotch bottles.

Ok, thank you. Heard about some group that mixed up the Irish whiskey market in Italy in the 80`s......

I remember something about that too.
I got a few from Italy and a few from whiskyauctions.com with Italian tax stamps, and their grand I think, the ones I've drank were perfect anyway.

IWC ,I see there's still a nice sup in the RVR. Galway is it hmmm...?
I think you should post the photo in achievements too.

[varizoltan]

Titanic 5, Titanic 10

[IrishWhiskeyChaser]

Ok, thank you. Heard about some group that mixed up the Irish whiskey market in Italy in the 80`s......

Can you please expand, don't remember hearing anything like that ... i'd be very interested

[matt]

Ok, thank you. Heard about some group that mixed up the Irish whiskey market in Italy in the 80`s......

Can you please expand, don't remember hearing anything like that ... i'd be very interested

Well, need some more time to grab out the info,i know it is somewhere

If i remember right the story was:
Some influential family clans where big in the Spirit import and distribution market in the north of Italy. Calling city`s like genova and Milano. From there the distributed also irish whiskey for the Italian market. If i remember right the where not talking about refilling or relabeling, no the just faked the lot (bottle/label/content/box).
The curious and clever part is: the just mixed the faked bottles under the original one`s and even paid tax for them. So now with the tax band it is really not easy to find out, unless you open a bottle and try it.

[Lezlie43]

18year old kilbeggan delicious

[JohnM]

Ok, thank you. Heard about some group that mixed up the Irish whiskey market in Italy in the 80`s......

Can you please expand, don't remember hearing anything like that ... i'd be very interested

Well, need some more time to grab out the info,i know it is somewhere

If i remember right the story was:
Some influential family clans where big in the Spirit import and distribution market in the north of Italy. Calling city`s like genova and Milano. From there the distributed also irish whiskey for the Italian market. If i remember right the where not talking about refilling or relabeling, no the just faked the lot (bottle/label/content/box).
The curious and clever part is: the just mixed the faked bottles under the original one`s and even paid tax for them. So now with the tax band it is really not easy to find out, unless you open a bottle and try it.

I couldn't see them making much profit doing this. Sure Irish whiskey is cheap, and to fake bottles, label and fill them might cost too much to be worthwhile? I've opened lots of Italian market bottles from 80s and 90s and never had a problem.

There was an issue with scotch. They were faking bottles that didn't even exist and selling it on eBay and other auctions - "rare" scotch. I think it might have just been a couple of guys with multiple accounts, but I'm not sure.

There could have been some Irish forgeries too, of course, for all I know. It just doesn't seem it would be profitable.

[IrishWhiskeyChaser]

18year old kilbeggan delicious

Not a bad little whiskey and a big improvement on the 15yo for me. Pity it is so expense though.

[Good Whiskey Hunting]

I'd totally agree about the Kilbeggan 18.
Here's a though-is it as good as the Jameson 18 or is the Jameson 18 worth €40 more?

On the previous post about fakes. I remember reading some article in The Whiskey Magazine about forged Scottish bottles at auctions, I though is was Italian Irish until I read that post earlier.My memory is failing me. I'll try find it again.

[matt]

Restocked some Knappogue 16, RB CS and a JJ ST.P.Day

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lucky that i could pick up some more Knappogue, my highest number is 1684

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[shanel23]

Bottle of the Titanic 5yr old - will pick up the 10yr old next trip

[JohnM]

There's a new 10 yr old on the market from Cooley.

http://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/P-16797.aspx

Berry Bros... An aged version of the NAS one, I presume.

[bredman]

More images to follow.

[bredman]

I do like my Hakushus.

[bredman]

[bredman]

And another one of these, simply because i love the packaging.

[Good Whiskey Hunting]

This little gem
I picked it up at that auction in Mealys.

I appears to be a very old bottle, judging by the glass used anyway.

[IrishWhiskeyChaser]

That was how they bottled Midleton pre merger but possibly did not stop using it till 1970.

How long they used that label prior requires a bit of research.

There was a 10year old version too and both were possibly replaced by the very first Midleton Reserve released in 1970.




Lovely bottle in excellent condition and a good collectable.

[IrishWhiskeyChaser]

More images to follow.

As always bredman ... looking good

[Luke Gough]

Two bottles of Lagavulin 12 "Special Edition" 2010.

I have an awful feeling that this may the last chance to get a good example of this particular distillery's style . (Damn your Eyes "Diego"! )

[Fionnán]

Luke,

has something critical happened to Lagavulin that i missed or just a steady drop?

[Luke Gough]

Luke,

has something critical happened to Lagavulin that i missed or just a steady drop?

Recent bottlings of the 16YO is have been underwhelming. Likewise, the recent bottling of Talisker 10YO has attracted criticism.

All I'm saying is that if you see a solid vintage from smaller Diageo-run distilleries snap it up, you may not get the chance again: http://www.royalmilewhiskies.com/product.asp?pf_id=0010000035186

[IrishWhiskeyChaser]

Luke,

has something critical happened to Lagavulin that i missed or just a steady drop?

I would say a gradual decline of peat & smoke only, even though it still would be a highly peated bottling but just not like the way it was, but that may only be in my mind.

I used always have a bottle of the 16yo at hand but I too find that it was lacking the punch that I first loved. Punch is probably the wrong word as this was always a fairly smooth whisky with wafts of dense smoke. However I have found over the last few years that the thick smoke seems to have dissipated some what to a lesser degree from what I used to love about this bottling. Some people still say it is a great whisky and it surely is in a way, it still has great mouth feel and wonderful taste from the oloroso but where is all the smoke? When you love something for all it's elements and one of those elements is missing I feel it is not the same whisky any more and always feel disappointed when I try it. For some reason I got 2006 (release year) in my head for the last decent bottle of Laga 16yo I've had. I persevered for years but last year I said I'm not buying it any more unless I notice from a pub bottle that the magic back

The 21yo was totally amazing by the way

[Luke Gough]

Luke,

has something critical happened to Lagavulin that i missed or just a steady drop?

I would say a gradual decline of peat & smoke only, even though it still would be a highly peated bottling but just not like the way it was, but that may only be in my mind.

I used always have a bottle of the 16yo at hand but I too find that it was lacking the punch that I first loved. Punch is probably the wrong word as this was always a fairly smooth whisky with wafts of dense smoke. However I have found over the last few years that the thick smoke seems to have dissipated some what to a lesser degree from what I used to love about this bottling. Some people still say it is a great whisky and it surely is in a way, it still has great mouth feel and wonderful taste from the oloroso but where is all the smoke? When you love something for all it's elements and one of those elements is missing I feel it is not the same whisky any more and always feel disappointed when I try it. For some reason I got 2006 (release year) in my head for the last decent bottle of Laga 16yo I've had. I preserved for years but last year I said I'm not buying it any more unless I notice from a pub bottle that the magic back

The 21yo was totally amazing by the way

I agree, a sadness that my bottle is long gone...