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Bonded Irish Whiskey History

Postby Lmcguane » Wed Mar 18, 2015 8:01 pm

Hello everyone: I am looking for information on the history of bonded irish whiskey. Does anyone know a good reference point? I'm interested to know the methodology behind it. Did purveyors age it themselves? Did they dilute it or give it any particular twist to differentiate it from the one offered at the shop down the road etc, etc. Anyone have any help? I am researching for a TV Show.

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Re: Bonded Irish Whiskey History

Postby IrishWhiskeyChaser » Fri Mar 20, 2015 11:53 am

Hi Louise,

Not sure what you know about Bond already but I'll give a brief description for others anyway.

Basically there has always been high Duty (Tax) on Whiskey and for a distillery to have to pay this as they produced it would have been prohibitively expensive. So a system was devised where the casked whiskey is kept in Bond. A bonded warehouse is simply a warehouse where goods where duty is payable can be kept securely until they are relased for sale upon which time the duty is paid, but have to be highly regulated and stock carefully recorded and accounted for. These warehouses need to be accessible to custom/revenue personell at all times. This practice quickly transfered over to larger Retail/Supplier outlets. And yes these businesses aged their own whiskey and even blended it.

The beauty of a Bonded warehouse is that whiskey businesses (Distilleries, suppliers, retailers) can stock up on whiskey with out the expense of Duty on top of that and sell as demand requires. It also saves the holder of a full cask of whiskey paying the duty on say of 250 liters of alcohol when they may only yeild circa 80% after 10 years or even only circa 50% after 20+ or more years. Therefore they only paid duty on what they yielded per cask rather than on the entire original cask contents which again would have be a major cost.

How you would reseasrch the history of this in totallium I have no idea but there is still one business I think could be very helpful to you in your quest.

One of the most famous Purveyors of whiskey today due to the longevity of a certain product that you can still access is Mitchell & sons who were the creators of Iconic whiskey Greenspot. (The brand is now owned by Irish Distillers but is still integral to the Mitchell business)

I am sure they would have no issue talking to you and they would give you a facinating look at how the whole process worked better that I and more as they are very proud of their whiskey credentials.
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Re: Bonded Irish Whiskey History

Postby Raven » Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:41 pm

As regards aging -- Quins of Limerick (Est.1822) and now sadly gone --premises shut and awaiting
redevelopment as part of a big city centre scheme in Limerick bought Powers whiskey from John's
Lane and aged it themselves as a Powers 10 year old and a Powers 12 year old.They also bottled
Jameson as well as a then standard 10 yr. old. Best of luck with the research.
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Re: Bonded Irish Whiskey History

Postby Good Whiskey Hunting » Sat Mar 21, 2015 1:45 pm

Fascinating subject Louise. Will you be incorporating the whole area of independent bottles too?
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