Teeling Whiskey Small Batch - a Red Letter day?

[Luke Gough]

46%ABV?
N.C.F.?
€30.00 a bottle?!

http://www.liquidirish.com/2013/02/teeling-whiskey.html

If true this could change the whole landscape for Irish Whiskey.

Or am I veering into hyperbole?

Comments please!!!

[DavidH]

They are very open to whiskey fans too. Speaking for myself anyway, I'll make a lot more effort to understand a whiskey if I know where it was made, what's in it, what kind of casks were used, how old it is, etc. It all adds to the enjoyment but some companies are very close with the information.

[Luke Gough]

They are very open to whiskey fans too. Speaking for myself anyway, I'll make a lot more effort to understand a whiskey if I know where it was made, what's in it, what kind of casks were used, how old it is, etc. It all adds to the enjoyment but some companies are very close with the information.

Mmm... Any figures on the Malt/Grain ratio?

[DavidH]

Mmm... Any figures on the Malt/Grain ratio?

I didn't hear that figure, just that it's more malt than usual (which I take to be your typical Cooley blend).

[IrishWhiskeyChaser]

Ya, I would not get overly excited on the price. I would imagine this will be their standard blend offering, which of course is a going to be a "premium" blend going by the price.

Can't wait to taste it but would not exactly be shouting about any bargains until then and we know a bit more about it.

Irish whiskey pricing is far from industry standard and if it is not carefully it could score an own goal if it continues to think it can charge what it likes, as sometimes seems the case.

[Joel1802]

Ya, I would not get overly excited on the price. I would imagine this will be their standard blend offering, which of course is a going to be a "premium" blend going by the price.

Can't wait to taste it but would not exactly be shouting about any bargains until then and we know a bit more about it.

Irish whiskey pricing is far from industry standard and if it is not carefully it could score an own goal if it continues to think it can charge what it likes.

Couldn't agree more. Some of the pricing demands a riot.

[Good Whiskey Hunting]

I would agree totally too.
I'm happy to see yet another on the market.

[Pudge72]

Ya, I would not get overly excited on the price. I would imagine this will be their standard blend offering, which of course is a going to be a "premium" blend going by the price.

Can't wait to taste it but would not exactly be shouting about any bargains until then and we know a bit more about it.

Irish whiskey pricing is far from industry standard and if it is not carefully it could score an own goal if it continues to think it can charge what it likes.

Couldn't agree more. Some of the pricing demands a riot.

In that regard, is someone able to explain why it seems (I could be mistaken) that most Irish whiskey is cheaper in Ontario, than it is in Ireland (Canada has a similar issue with most of its whiskey being demonstrably cheaper to purchase in the US). I'm not knowledgable on tax code/structure for alcohol, but my uneducated guess would have the culprit lay somewhere in there.

[Distiller]

I would say it is down to tax. In the EU France is generally regarded as the cheapest place to buy whiskey because of the low tax. I don't know about Canada tax rates but I would guess this is the case. Just sit back relax and enjoy the cheap Irish Whiskey... you lucky dog.

[Pudge72]

I would say it is down to tax. In the EU France is generally regarded as the cheapest place to buy whiskey because of the low tax. I don't know about Canada tax rates but I would guess this is the case. Just sit back relax and enjoy the cheap Irish Whiskey... you lucky dog.

Woof! Woof!

[Good Whiskey Hunting]

In that regard, is someone able to explain why it seems (I could be mistaken) that most Irish whiskey is cheaper in Ontario, than it is in Ireland (Canada has a similar issue with most of its whiskey being demonstrably cheaper to purchase in the US). I'm not knowledgable on tax code/structure for alcohol, but my uneducated guess would have the culprit lay somewhere in there.

Ireland has a very high excise duty on alcohol among other taxes. New ones appear every day. But that not all the story.
I remember Baileys 1Ltr were half the price in Germany than the 70cl were in Ireland in 97/98. Bizarrely they are as cheap now as they were back then. Perhaps some local profiteering back then too.
I recently discovered it was €50/60 cheaper to buy a keg of Guinness in Germany than here too. I know the excise duty on beer is not that excessive so the distributors here know they have a captive audience and are taking advantage of the fact.

[JohnM]

In that regard, is someone able to explain why it seems (I could be mistaken) that most Irish whiskey is cheaper in Ontario, than it is in Ireland (Canada has a similar issue with most of its whiskey being demonstrably cheaper to purchase in the US). I'm not knowledgable on tax code/structure for alcohol, but my uneducated guess would have the culprit lay somewhere in there.

Ireland has a very high excise duty on alcohol among other taxes. New ones appear every day. But that not all the story.
I remember Baileys 1Ltr were half the price in Germany than the 70cl were in Ireland in 97/98. Bizarrely they are as cheap now as they were back then. Perhaps some local profiteering back then too.
I recently discovered it was €50/60 cheaper to buy a keg of Guinness in Germany than here too. I know the excise duty on beer is not that excessive so the distributors here know they have a captive audience and are taking advantage of the fact.

The Jameson Rarest Vintage Reserve... €375 here, $250 in the States. More than just tax at work in this case.

[samuelkarlsson]

Guys!

If you like, please read my tastingnote of the new Teeling Whiskey blend. I received a "sample" bottle on monday the 11th of february from the Teeling Whiskey Co.

Nose:
The first things that comes out of the bottle actually is quite "rummy" and raisiny with whiffs of pear. From the glass comes even more of the exotic, say peach, pear again, a soft vanilla, a bit of coconut with traces of grain whiskey, actually a bit like greenore in style but obviously more mature than the 8yo... the strength of the whiskey comes through as a bit of a heat on the nose (be careful when you put your nose in the glass) : ) after it has rested for a while it becomes really soft and sweetness and vanilla are most evident... also some milkchocolate

Palate:
Tasting the whiskey I get loads of sweetness the first few seconds, honey, then moving on into mellow vanilla, the coconut is there, then comes a small dryness moving us into the ruminfluence, it's not hot in this phase but rather a little peppery that sits from the middle of the tounge and forward. If the nose has traces of grain the palate relies more on the malty components in the whiskey, nice aftertaste that boasts of fruity rum and dryness mixed together. Very more-ish. Overall this is a great Irish blended whiskey and, from where I'm standing, one of the few sucessful rumfinished whiskeys : )

[Pudge72]

Thank you for answering my tax related question...sorry for the thread hi-jacking.

Thank you also 'samuelkarlsson' for the detailed tasting notes...hope to see something from them on this side of the pond in the future.

[IainB]

Got a bottle of this tonight (in Limerick - good whiskey shop - can't remember name) - I'm quite impressed - I wasn't planning on getting a bottle but it was the only thing in the shop I hadn't tried. While I love cooley malt and grain whiskeys I've never been a big fan of the blends. This I like - had it alongside a black bush - compares very well.

One question - what the "since 1782" all about? Is this along the lines of the Bushmills 1608 thing?

[Joel1802]

Well Tryconnell claims 1762 even though it had bugger-all to do with the original brand from Londonderry and that date can only refer to Watt, the Tryconnell brand is a 19th C Watt brand.

I'm leading a tasting for a local club on the 16th and one of the things I intend to cover is "Bull S***" in whisky: 1608, 1762, Bow St... I intend to have some fun at the expense of some marketing departments...

Maybe someone should open a distillery in Newry and lay claim to the date 1600 when a distiller burned the town down! It`d annoy Bushmills!

[DavidH]

The 1782 thing refers to the Teeling name. Jack is joining the dots between his forthcoming Dublin distillery, through his father's founding of Cooley, back to Walter Teeling who operated an 18th century distillery in Marrowbone Lane.

I didn't want to write general comments on the tasting notes thread started by Distiller so I'll add 'em here. Luke suggested to me that Teeling would go well alongside a stout. He was right! I never drink stout but I had a Leann Folláin and Teeling in The Palace last Saturday and it was a great duet.

I also ordered one on ice to see if the flavour stands up for casual pub consumption. It does.

It's good to see it already available in various Dublin pubs. If it can hit around the €5 mark, I'll be very happy to drink it.

[Luke Gough]

I didn't want to write general comments on the tasting notes thread started by Distiller so I'll add 'em here. Luke suggested to me that Teeling would go well alongside a stout. He was right! I never drink stout but I had a Leann Folláin and Teeling in The Palace last Saturday and it was a great duet.

At your service David!

It's good to see it already available in various Dublin pubs. If it can hit around the €5 mark, I'll be very happy to drink it.

It's €5.00 in The Long Hall at present.

[Joel1802]

I suppose that makes 1782 more plausible than 1608. It is supposed the earliest settlement in Dublin was 140 AD, so why not just use that for a date?

[Raven]

Got a bottle today @ Bradley's, North Main st., in Cork -- 34.99 euro
which was accompanied by a very generous tasting measure. Rum
influence made it good for me. Quite like the label design of the Phoenix
arising from the ashes ( of the former Dublin Whiskey industry no doubt )!!!

[varizoltan]

the Celtic Whiskey shop has it for 30 euros, it is cheaper than anywhere else, just got a bottle today

[JohnM]

The Teeling 26 year old was being tasted by people on Twitter last night. Got a very positive response. Limited to 1,000 bottles.

Unfortunately, it is going to cost about €500.