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Gilbey's Redbreast

Postby mrsflano » Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:44 pm

I found a bottle of Gilbey's Red Breast - John Jameson & Son's 10 Years Old Liqueur Whiskey in the cupboard. I was told that it is probably from the 60s or 70s. Would anyone have an idea of its value? Thanks for any information!
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Re: Gilbey's Redbreast

Postby IrishWhiskeyChaser » Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:24 pm

Any chance you could post a picture.

But at a quick guess anything from €150-250Euro
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Re: Gilbey's Redbreast

Postby mrsflano » Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:34 pm

Hope this helps! Thanks
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Re: Gilbey's Redbreast

Postby IrishWhiskeyChaser » Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:07 pm

Late 60's Eary 70's is a good estimate.

And I think the top end of my last estimate is a fair estimate, maybe €200-250 .
Wait an see what others think but reckon I'm close enough.

The problem with this however is you may not realise that on ebay.

I've seen them got for less than 200Dollars in Ebay US.

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Re: Gilbey's Redbreast

Postby TheWhiskeyBro » Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:38 pm

Yes that looks like the later bottling of Gilbey's Redbreast 10YO, bottled between mid 1960s and 1972/3. Jameson stopped supplying Gilbeys with the closure of the Bow Street Distillery in 1971. However Gilbeys continued to bottle Redbreast until 1985 following which Irish Distillers purchased the brand. A specialist retailer would sell that bottle for up to €300 (Insurance Value), but buy it for between €150 - €200.
A fair collectors price would be around €200 - €240.

Hope this information is helpful.

If your thinking of offering it for sale please pm me on this forum alternatively by email on lphelan1@hotmail.com
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Re: Gilbey's Red Breast

Postby mrsflano » Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:42 am

Thanks to both of you for the information. Should I decide to offer the bottle for sale, I will certainly be in touch. I am located in Dublin.

All the best to you!
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Re: Gilbey's Red Breast

Postby cathach » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:10 pm

Musha if only the society was fully in order and it could be bought for the benefit of the members. argh!! Imagine a head to head of all the Redbreasts??
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Re: Gilbey's Red Breast

Postby TheWhiskeyBro » Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:52 pm

If you want an independent valuation you can always try Ally in the Celtic Whiskey Shop on Dawson Street for his opinion.
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Re: Gilbey's Red Breast

Postby jcskinner » Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:52 pm

Can we organise a whipround and buy this for the society if the owner sells?
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Re: Gilbey's Red Breast

Postby IrishWhiskeyChaser » Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:11 pm

I'll start so ....

Here's a fiver ...

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Re: Gilbey's Red Breast

Postby jcskinner » Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:20 pm

Seriously.
Let's see what price the owner would like, negotiate a deal, and then ten of us can split the cost and taste the whiskey?
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Re: Gilbey's Red Breast

Postby IrishWhiskeyChaser » Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:56 pm

jcskinner wrote:Seriously.
Let's see what price the owner would like, negotiate a deal, and then ten of us can split the cost and taste the whiskey?


Seriously, I'd be on for it .... okay I may have to up it to 25euro though ;)

I think 200-250 would be a fair price for this
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Re: Gilbey's Red Breast

Postby varizoltan » Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:51 am

I be up for it too!!
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Re: Gilbey's Red Breast

Postby jcskinner » Sat Apr 04, 2009 12:32 pm

Well, that's three prepared to chip in already.
I think this idea may be a runner!
If the OP comes back with a price in mind, if indeed they would like to sell, then we might be able to bring this bottle into society hands!
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Re: Gilbey's Red Breast

Postby DavidH » Sat Apr 04, 2009 12:37 pm

I'd also love to try it. Some of the guys on this forum buy and sell old whiskeys. Anyone got a spare they want to sell to a consortium?
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Re: Gilbey's Red Breast

Postby Michael Foggarty » Sat Apr 04, 2009 12:41 pm

Im in as well, but i not going through the torture of drinking it again, its pure muck
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Re: Gilbey's Red Breast

Postby IrishWhiskeyChaser » Sat Apr 04, 2009 4:00 pm

Michael Foggarty wrote:Im in as well, but i not going through the torture of drinking it again, its pure muck



Not a PPS fan Michael? I've had one of these old one as well and thourghly enjoyed it.
Actually that gives me an Idea for a poll :idea:
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Re: Gilbey's Redbreast

Postby Michael Foggarty » Sat Apr 04, 2009 6:42 pm

No i like pps alot.

When we tried it (3 of us) we werent expecting much but what we got was awfull all 3 us couldnt even finish it, infact we actually gave the 3 glasses away to 3 other guys who couldnt drink it either. Might of been a bad bottle, but i think not.
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Re: Gilbey's Redbreast

Postby cathach » Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:38 pm

I wouldn't mind trying it either myself. Although there is a pub in Galway with a bottle, Tigh Neachtain, they flog it at E30 snots a glass, but the barman inside told me it tasted just like todays stuff.

If its open a while it can really soften up, the old stuff had be different you'd think, being made with oats, wheat and rye as well.
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Re: Gilbey's Redbreast

Postby PaddyP » Sat May 09, 2009 12:07 am

Any update on the 10 yr. old red breast, is it still with the original owner ?
If so I would like to see it bought by a collector as the cork and label seem in such good condition and It would
also suit my collection just fine.
The chances are there will be simular bottles become available that will be suitable only for consumption and at
a better price.
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Re: Gilbey's Redbreast

Postby mrsflano » Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:02 am

Good morning,

Sorry for the lapse of information regarding the Redbreast, but I have been out of the country. The bottle is still available for sale.

Thank you for your interest.
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Re: Gilbey's Redbreast

Postby IrishWhiskeyChaser » Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:10 pm

Need to see if there are funds available in the Society for this.
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Re: Gilbey's Redbreast

Postby DavidH » Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:18 am

I had the last full shot of original Redbreast tonight in the Bull & Castle (there is still a half-shot left). Michael is right - horrible stuff. I refuse to believe they were all like that.
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Re: Gilbey's Redbreast

Postby jcskinner » Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:38 am

I purchased the bottle advertised in this thread.
I can confirm it is in excellent condition, with a very good fill level in the neck and likely little if any oxidisation looks to have occurred.
I wonder if the bottle in the pub might have got a little oxidised over the years, especially if there was only a shot or two left in the bottle?
Either way, the option remains open for the society to find out. We now seem to have the bare bones of a chronological Redbreast tasting at some point.
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Re: Gilbey's Redbreast

Postby IrishWhiskeyChaser » Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:53 am

jcskinner wrote:I purchased the bottle advertised in this thread.
I can confirm it is in excellent condition, with a very good fill level in the neck and likely little if any oxidisation looks to have occurred.
I wonder if the bottle in the pub might have got a little oxidised over the years, especially if there was only a shot or two left in the bottle?
Either way, the option remains open for the society to find out. We now seem to have the bare bones of a chronological Redbreast tasting at some point.


Fair play I nearly forgot about this again :thumbsup:

JC the bottle you bought is a 10yo so different to the 12yo's that seem to be in pubs all over the place. Therefore I reckon that this will be a much finer whiskey. The thinking is that the RB 12yos of the eighties were filled using the last remaining independently controlled stocks of Redbreast. There is a possibility that all stock over 12years was used and much older casks past their best may have been used in the mix or just in certain batches who knows. Therefore if there was a lot of over aged pps it may have brought down the quality.

I am wondering though if the bottle that everybody talks about is just a dud that's been open too long. I've had a RB 12yo too and did not find it repulsive but I did not find it was anywhere near as good as current RB 12yo. I did find that it had this dull sweetness with the musty PPS character that we talk about with the older Midleton PPS however I also found that there was a kind of orange flavoured children's medicine quality to it too which was not very appealing.
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